5 comments

  • MisterMunchkin 10 minutes ago
    I like trying new models but I wish we’d get something actually new. Like a new architecture or something. LLMs are just so sloppish. We can do better.
  • jstummbillig 44 minutes ago
    Why is that interesting?
  • esafak 1 hour ago
    It doesn't look competitive along any dimension: https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/step-5#intelligence-com...

    Better luck next time.

    • RussianCow 11 minutes ago
      It's fast. The average speed is 115 tokens/sec according to OpenRouter. I haven't tested the model to see how it is in practice, but I'd certainly pay a little extra for faster inference.

      Edit: Though the average latency of 1.5s isn't very low, so it might not be that fast in practice for agentic work. Also, I don't know how much thinking it does, as that's generally been the drawback to Chinese models.

  • lykr0n 1 hour ago
    Wonder if this was the space bunny alpha model
    • minimaxir 1 hour ago
      After some quick tests, it likely isn't. Additionally, Space Bunny Alpha had hints it was a Minimax-variant model.
  • hosel 2 hours ago
    Without the pelicans I don’t know what to think

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    https://postimg.cc/c6L2MjSt

    12m 0s and $0.28

    >Draw a Hacker News-style comment thread. Top comment by a user named "pelican_enjoyer": "Without the pelicans I don't know what to think." Reply from "minimaxir" in a grumpy tone: "Since people keep doing it: no, you don't have to make an allusion to Simon's pelicans every time a Hacker News thread about a new LLM pops up. It's a lower-effort joke than even Reddit memes." Beside the thread, show a pelican riding a bicycle, looking smug.

    • minimaxir 1 hour ago
      Since people keep doing it: no, you don't have to make an allusion to Simon's pelicans every time a Hacker News thread about a new LLM pops up. It's a lower-effort joke than even Reddit memes.
      • hypfer 1 hour ago
        I'd just read it as social friction, just like I'd read your comment as that very same thing.

        This is the consensus mechanism doing its job, essentially.

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        Though to be fair, the way I frame it assumes no connections between nodes and independent choices, when in reality, we have groups supporting each other.

        So it's not necessarily the best mechanism, as social cohesion and other such dysfunctions might be steering away from the objectively correct solution through not necessarily rational biases.

        Or rather not necessarily rational when viewed in just the specific context, but possibly rational when zooming out and considering whole-subsystem health.

        • minimaxir 1 hour ago
          Low-effort content is generally discouraged on Hacker News because it lowers the quality of the site. It's not a deep commentary on socioeconomics.
          • hypfer 1 hour ago
            Like posting the exact same personal brand-building under each new model you mean?

            As said, there is no right or wrong here. Well, technically there is and it is my opinion (obviously), but if we take a step back, it's exactly what I just described and you (unfortunately) discarded through bulldozing.

            The """"thought leaders"""" will have to live with the fact that some people just don't think that their work is adding all that much value. It's a bit unpleasant for the ego of course, but that's kinda the trade when making money with fluff.

      • behole 1 hour ago
        Pelican Police. Cry more.
    • Razengan 23 minutes ago
      There was a better alternative, buried by HN censorship:

      The Assbench: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49807688

    • behole 2 hours ago
      paging Simon Wilson!